Oakville Residents Lead National Effort to Change Columbus Day
Should Columbus Day be changed to Exploration Day? Read more and let us know what you think!
OAKVILLE, MO -- Three locals are trying to change Columbus Day to Exploration Day.
The movement started in the living room of Karl Frank Jr. after TV reports of Neil Armstrong’s death. Frank—a Patch blogger and former Mehlville school board member—wanted to honor the astronaut's accomplishments.
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“I have never been a fan of having a Federal holiday named after Columbus's accidental conquest. Like my wife said when I mentioned this to her, ‘Why? Because saying he discovered America is like walking into a grocery store and saying you discovered milk?’” he said in a blog post about the effort.
Frank recruited friends Tom Diehl and Dr. Rod Wright. Diehl is a former Mehlville school board president and Wright is a political scientist and public relations specialist.
The group started a petition for the White House and needs 25,000 signatures by Sept. 27 for officials to review the petition. As of Monday night, their petition has 1,176 signatures.
The movement has officially gone national.
Wired’s Jeffrey Marlow wrote a story Sept. 7 calling for support because Columbus Day's popularity has been decreasing over the years.
St. Louis Post-Dispatch columnist Bill McClellan is also gathering votes for the group saying, “Christopher Columbus is to heroes what Pluto is to planets.”
Frank said Exploration Day would allow people to celebrate Columbus, but also any other explorer that’s made innovations in the physical or technological world.
The group has a blog and Facebook page, and people can sign the online petition here.
Don B
10:22 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
With all the problems this country has they want to burden our legistartor's with this crap. Columbus was to important to this country to elimnate from our history's celebrations.
PJ
10:33 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Don B....I agree with you! These guys must have way, way too much free time on their hands to want to go down this road...or, they have an axe to grind about Italians! In the big picture, don't we have a million MORE important things to do than this? Please...get a life!
Mark
1:32 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Actually the 'importance' of Columbus to this country is overly exagerrated and skewed by american history books. Despite what you've been told and learned in school books, Columbus did not discover America, the Vikings did, Leif Ericson landed in North America, not the Caribbean like COlumbus, over 500 years before Columbus did.
MoonBeamWatcher
4:13 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
This crap is right up our legistartor's alley and should keep
them in SINGLE digital popularity!
It's jobs dingbats, read my lips J O B S !
Kitzer
11:36 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Columbus is a 'wanna-be'!! He does not count!!
Jack
11:36 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Mark, Neither Columbus nor Leif Erickson discovered America. Humans were already here when Columbus and Leif Erickson landed. No discovery! This has to stop!
fairfield newcomer
10:33 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Stupid idea, sometimes tradition trumps the ideas of those who want to change traditions, maybe they should look into changing Christmas for honor Titanic Day.
hijalibre
10:49 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Is it any wonder Columbus Day's "popularity has been decreasing over the years"? Liberal professors have been bashing him for decades. They are making him out to be a murderer, rather than the great hero he was! He worked for 14 years just to get an appointment with the queen of Spain to provide ships for him to explore the ocean. When others feared falling off the face of the earth if they sailed too far, he believed the earth was round, and set out to prove it. His tenacious courage and vision for scientific truth drove him forward, when others cowered in fear! If it hadn't been for Christopher Columbus, our world would be much different today! NO, I WILL NOT APPROVE OF ELIMINATING ONE OF HISTORY'S GREATEST HEROES FROM OUR ACKNOWLEDGMENT BY A HOLIDAY NAMED AFTER HIM!!
Saint Cynicism
12:17 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Okay, I'm going to stop you right there.
Columbus was not the only one who believed the Earth was round. The vast majority of the educated classes believed it (including nobility and those with enough money to afford a tutor). Even the Greeks knew it (Atlas is depicted holding a spherical Earth on his shoulders, not a flat one). There was never a great fear of "falling off the face of the Earth," it was believed they'd all die because Columbus' math was off and he thought the Earth was much smaller than it was. The very real, very legitimate concern was that the supplies he wanted wouldn't be enough for him to actually make it all the way across the world to India. Stumbling into another continent was the only thing that saved him and his crew from dying outright.
He also wasn't concerned with "proving" the Earth was round (again: something most educated people already knew), he was trying to find a new trade route to India. Back then, if your nation found one, it was yours, and you could tax anyone who used it. So, the simplest way to save money was to just make a new one. The evidence of what he was doing isn't hard to find, in fact you can even find it in the name we have for the islands in the Caribbean today: "The West Indies." Heck, the reason Native Americans are known as Indians is that Columbus actually thought he'd landed in India, despite all evidence to the contrary (wrong flora and fauna, etc.).
Not to mention he wasn't even the first to find America...
Tom Robinson
1:14 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Colombus never set foot in "America" He stumbled onto what is now Haiti.
In 1398 Prince Henry Sinclair of Scotland landed in what is now Massachusits.
There is a grave marker in the town of Westford, MA to prove it.
Interestingly, Columbus used the great grandson on Prince Henry Sinclair's navigator. Obviously his great grandfather was much better at navigation.
guest
3:44 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
This is a ridiculous emotional comment. Stop politicizing everything. I also think changing Columbus Day to Exploration Day is ridiculous too.That's as bad as Presidents Day. All these holidays have become a day off from work and/or a Big Sale Day. It's a disgrace. Most young people don't know the real meaning for these holidays anyway.
guest
3:48 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
This is a ridiculous emotional comment. Stop politicizing everything. I also think changing Columbus Day to Exploration Day is ridiculous too.That's as bad as Presidents Day. All these holidays have become a day off from work and/or a Big Sale Day. It's a disgrace. Most young people and their parents even don't know the real meaning for these holidays anyway.
AM
5:55 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Replying to Thomas down below. Haiti is in the Americas. Only 'United Statesians' think that the term "America" only applies to the "United States OF America". (Remember your geography classes? Canada, Cuba, Mexico, Argentina, Brazil...to name just a few are all part of America. Gosh, they've even named two continents North AMERICA and South AMERICA,,,and there was a time we even talked about Central AMERICA. Where do you think Haiti is? Asia?)
Kitzer
11:36 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
He never set foot in what is now know as America!!
I 'discovered' a wad of chewing gum on the back of my childs headboard on Wednesday, 5 September 2012. I want it declared a Holiday!!
Karl Frank Jr.
10:55 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Thanks for your thoughts, but we have a bigger goal than just a federal holiday based around the idea of exploration, scientific research, creativity, and ingenuity. Our plan is to make something of it...like similar holidays...the kind of day that encourages children to spark their imaginations and expand their horizons. Inside, we are all explorers.
It would be the first federal holiday of its kind to not only celebrate the past, but what is possible for us in the future.
It's about optimism...and that is never a waste of time. - Karl
Jose D. Olivo Jr
11:05 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
So rather than build on the holiday itself you want to change it completely to the bland and safe "Exploration Day"? Yes sir, it is a waste of time. How about you pick another day instead of targeting this specific one? I can't wait to hear ideas for a holiday like say Christmas...oh wait they keep trying to change it to Winter Solstice Day. What a bunch of baloney. Yeah you do have a bigger goal...wipe out the entire history of this great country.
Joey Pas
1:00 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
You and your followers will start with this and then Christmas will bother you and then Easter. If you have nothing better to do why don' you spend more time with your kids or try coaching a kids team. This has nothing to do with kids and all to do with your not very bright idea
Karl Frank Jr.
1:04 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Joey, I coach the 10u St. Louis Bobcats baseball team. If you're ever in the area, stop by for a good game. My favorite player on the team is named Joey. :)
elly lu
10:59 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
seriously? let's tackle the issues first. the folks in Washington have enough trouble focusing.
Karl Frank Jr.
11:01 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Scientific literacy (or lack thereof) is a serious issue. It's one of the main reasons why many of our "issues" exist. Luckily, politicians, and humans in general are dialectical in nature and can handle many subjects at once.
I can understand why you would feel that way though.
waagtod
11:35 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Karl, are you serious? Politicians can handle many subjects at once? Do you have any idea how Washington works? If it is not the flavor of the day or they are not being paid for by special interests, NOTHING will be done. Politicians can keep track of 2 maybe 3 things at a time.
But you have to love how they write revisionist history, Columbus would be a bad man today so therefore everything he did then(when he was the norm) was tainted.
Never mind the fact that the vast majority of the Americas would never be what they are today without his voyage. So what if the Chinese or the Irish or the vikings did or did not come first, what lasting impact on the Americas did they have? Diddlysquat!
Karl Frank Jr.
11:38 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
waagtod,
It was well known the world was round at the time. Cabot and Amerigo Vespucci (who America is named after) were right on his tail.
Not saying Columbus wasn't a great explorer, because he was...and he can still be celebrated on Exploration Day. :)
Rene
11:02 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
i agree with the comments. We have too many people interested in watering down any history and heritage we try to honor. I am tired of holidays being changed to fit in better with "Someone's" ideas and convienences. Try to celebrate life and change things like pollution and poverty so our world is better for everyone. Don't waste our time with this.
Jose D. Olivo Jr
11:16 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Rene I am with you on that. Under the guise of being all inclusive, or inoffensive or just because it will be better, people like Mr. Frank slowly but surely try to erase what made this country what it is (warts and all)....the greatest nation in history.
Karl Frank Jr.
11:09 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Here is a history channel episode on who really discovered America. It's not watering down of history...it's a raw and data-driven look at our continent's real history: It's disconcerting for some for sure...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzEWHG9iGI4
BTW, it was a liberal, FDR that made Columbus Day a holiday in the first place because of some heavy lobbying of Knights of Columbus...1939 I think was the year.
Jim McBride
11:22 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
and they still are not sure who really did discover America for the first time or when it happened. The Norse, the Japanese, Chinese, Polynesians, or even earlier some Europeans coming across the Atlantic in the Ice Age - there are good arguments for all of them having been here and many of them stayed at some time in our history.
did South Americans come north and how many, crossed at the Bering Straits?
all of it is part guesswork with some research into people who did live here and shoe evidence of ancestry but of course didn't keep records.
and some mitrocondrial DNA research which can only give so much evidence.
the important point to be made in this as in all historical research is that these things are all evidence to back the arguments made - there is no "proof" for anything that happened that long ago. Not until we find a fully preserved DvD collection from 30,000 BCE or earlier will we really know lolz
waagtod
11:39 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Who cares who discovered it? Columbus was the beginning of the Americas as we know them, whomever came before had no impact on the "civilization" of the Americas.
If we revise history just because we don't like something we will be doomed to repeat it.
Mike
11:23 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
The idiots in Washington are not doing what they are paid to do already. Perhaps they can agree on something.
This is not a bad idea. Honor: Columbus, the Vikings, Lewis and Clark, Armstrong, Magellan, Marco Polo, and many others. If we extend this to scientists we can include Newton, Tesla, Galileo, Archimedes, Franklin and many others.
If handled correctly in our schools (a far stretch) children may get inspired to take up Math and Science.
Karl Frank Jr.
11:31 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Mike, you nailed it! This is exactly what we are looking for in this effort. Nothing changes the fact that Columbus was still an explorer and worth celebrating. He as well and many other greats were and will fall under this idea of celebrating the human ideal of exploration. Well said.
lawrence capaldi
11:32 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
The guy must hate Italians
Karl Frank Jr.
11:35 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Are there people who still hate Italians? LOL.
Cindy Halpern
11:35 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
The Vikings might have been the first to discover America, but there was no permanent settlement.
What sets Columbus apart from the rest is that permanent settlements were established.
Katherine
12:01 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
What I think is funny how not once person even mentions the native americans that were already here.......But i guess they left that out of history class these days too. Such a shame to see my ancestors forgotten.
Bob Ickrath
12:06 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
They watered down Lincoln and Washington's B-day so they could be politically correct and have MLK Day. This is just more of the same thing...Surprised he doesn't want to name it Obama Day....or is he waiting to get rid of the 4th of July for that?
Melinda T Storch
12:12 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I'm on board with "Exploration Day." Yes, Columbus was historically significant, and should be honored for his incredible efforts and achievements. AND, there are many, many others who fall in the "explorers" category for whom there are not enough days in the year to honor! And the idea of having this holiday "focus forward" is hugely important, to help motivate and encourage today's students (read: future explorers), and glorify ALL the outcomes -- past, present and future -- of intrepid exploration. GO EXPLOR(ERS?) DAY!
Laura Moss
12:20 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
In South Dakota it is not called Columbus day but Native American day. As such we celebrate the culture and history of the Native Americans of the nation who are not recongise with their own holiday as the should be because of their long history and culture they have contributated to this great nation.
Jerry
12:42 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Leave the holiday as Columbus Day. He may or may not have been the first European to set foot on American soil, but he definitely was the first to irrefutably record the discovery and to enable the chain of events that gave rise to the United States. The Vikings didn't do that even though evidence suggests they had a short lived settlement here. There are also legends about Iberians, Irish monks, and even ancient Egyptians landing on these shores. But nothing came of it. Columbus was head and shoulders above all of these and he earned the recognition. Were it not for Columbus, our own history might have been very different.
Dave Dziedzic
12:51 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Maybe it's semantics, but when we say Columbus "discovered" America, it means it's the first time the European Renaissance establishment was aware that there were lands in the world that were not on their maps. The native people knew they were there. LOL. It's not like the moon, where the government funded, built the rocket and trained the explorers, and chose who would go. This was Columbus' own idea and he had to get the funding from a skeptical monarchy, convince a crew it would work, and then risk his own reputation. And he ultimately didn't deliver what he promised. I guess the rest of his life was a dismal failure; don't take this one bit of posterity away from him.
Karl Frank Jr.
1:23 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Dr. Rod Wright on why the Time is Right to Establish an Exploration Day To Replace Columbus Day: - http://goo.gl/np0vd
Excerpt:
"National holidays are an event that all should celebrate — regardless of background or political beliefs. For better or worse, Columbus Day no longer has that characteristic.
A number of years ago, the people I worked with decided to trade Columbus Day, as a paid holiday off, for Veteran’s Day. Our demotion of Columbus Day was consistent with a national trend of paying less and less attention to that holiday as more and more states have removed Columbus Day as a paid holiday.
There are several reasons for this trend, some which are controversial. Without question, history has been unkind to Christopher Columbus. Certainly many Native Americans have found celebrating his life to romanticize and legitimize the history of genocide in our country. Also, many historians now paint a picture of Columbus that falls far short of type of person for whom a holiday should be named. It is not essential to delve into that history. Let’s just say that a national “Columbus Day” holiday has resulted just as much from Columbus’s just self-promotion as from his achievements.
Surely we can agree that holidays like Independence Day should unite rather than divide. Surely we can agree that a holiday that’s become a source of contention and declining observance should be redefined to something we all admire. A national Exploration Day does just that."
AM
5:45 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Most people don't even realize it's Columbus Day unless Google or AOL offer new backgrounds, or unless you're in a school setting where the curriculum gets set aside to throw in a lesson about Columbus (and some already mention other explorers as well.) But then again, most people don't know the difference between Veteran's Day and Memorial Day and only question why they don't get off work...and Labor Day is just the last day off before school is in full swing.
Okay, so we change it to Explorers Day so we can include more explorers. Please keep it to GEOGRAPHICAL explorers. If you want a Scientist Day, or a Scientist Month so that schools focus on that, then do that seperately. And yes, I realize that some scientific discoveries came about with the help of geographical explorers: whether that was documenting Osage Oranges (Lewis and Clark) for the 'white man's culture', or the men who landed on the moon...and the exploring machines now floating around planets and through Space...the Final Frontier.
jim rohrbach
5:49 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
National Holidays are so government workers can get paid not to work. If you want National holidays then everything should be closed. Next thing you should change is Thanksgiving Day. It is only a celebration of a big barbecue that happened before there was a USA.
Karl Frank Jr.
1:43 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
We are looking for Guest Bloggers at www.ExplorationDayUSA.org. While we are mostly looking for supporters, we may consider well articulated dissent as well.
If you are interest, just fill out the Contact Us Page at http://explorationdayusa.org/contact-us/ and put "Guest Blogger" in the headlines.
Read through some of what has already been posted to get an idea of what we are looking for.
Abel Hernandez
1:44 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Maybe we should change it too "there goes the neighborhood day"'
Wagman
2:00 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
OK, folks, particularly on this day, it is important to remember WHY Columbus set out to find a new trade route......look it up.
Oscar
2:19 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Why should we honor and celebrate anyone who came to the americas to plunder loot and kill the native peoples. This is a holocaust that has been swept under the rug and no one recognizes We need to do away with Columbus Day And celebrate the victims of the conquistadores.
Rick Craine
2:33 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Then why do we have Cinco de Mayo day. It has nothing to do with American independance. Mexico doesn't celebrate Cinco de Mayo.
Ronnie Davis
2:51 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
All i see is yet more polituical correctness coming,,this world, especially america is colaspsing right before our eyes due to political correctness , far left loonecy, and ego ,power hungry, evil intended, keep GOD out of america type thugery politisions like Obama and his cabinet of immoral cronies. We are about to undergo a near armagedden in america with economical disasters, and you want to change a holliday?? I weep for this country and what it has become, and mark my words GOD is about to show his mighty hand to us and the world. We are about to see a time of sorrows and a tribulation never before seen by human eyes. I pray it comes sooner rather than later ,just to prove to the world who really is in control. GOD be with us.
Saint Cynicism
2:57 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Apparently, the only thing worse than your reasoning skills is your grasp of the English language.
I'm not entirely sure how changing "Columbus Day" to "Exploration Day" is an example of political correctness. This idiot tripped and fell into a continent he didn't know was there, barely avoiding a rightly deserved fate of starvation at sea. I'd rather celebrate people who actually accomplished something they set out to do, rather than someone who decided finding people who looked different was reason enough to pick a few up and take home, thus kicking off the ridiculously genocidal colonial policy of the Spaniards (not to mention most of the European powers that followed, though France was unusually nice about it).
But hey, maybe you're okay with things like that, so long as all the rapes, brutal enslavement, and murders was committed by people who swore they were just being Good Christians and those others deserved it.
Bob H
3:27 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Columbus day is my BIRTHDAY. When I was a kid I could see the red letter on the date. DON'T SCREW WITH MY BIRTHDAY.
jimbarry1946
3:28 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I compare this idea to Male Bovine Feces.
Alfred Rizzo
3:56 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I once worked in a company that had a number of engineers who were predomiately German. they looked down on Italians and would always bring up their superiority. one day while at coffee break i brought up the fact that while their ancestors were in a cave eating with their hands we Romans (Italians) were seated at a table in our home eating with knife, fork and spoon.
dan crabtree
4:00 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Liberals with way to much free time on there hands summer breaks maybe..oh and genuis with-out colombus you would have been born a ???? certainly not an american...
Terri
8:49 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
I guess that's why we're called "Columbians".
waagtod
7:40 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
No,Vespucci stole the thunder. Typically, someone comes along after the fact and takes the credit!! But Columbus was probably a liberal, a conservative would just accept there already was a way to India, why look for another way?
Eugene mannarino
4:21 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
THIS IS UNREAL BUT AGAIN WHY NOT JUST DO AWAY WITH IT ALL .why not change the name of MLK DAY to something like something for everyone who preached Peace Like Mother Theresa .
AM
5:49 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Not a bad idea. Why not call it Peaceful Cooperating Day. Or love one another day. Or All you need is love day. MLK could still be celebrated, along with others who supported his cause of all of us getting along and working together!
Rebekah
4:30 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I agree with those who said that Columbus was no explorer of lands. He was an explorer of WEALTH. If you study history you will find that not only did he accidentally stumble upon South America but he certainly not the first. You will also learn that as a result of Columbus setting foot in the Americas, well over 1 MILLION Native Americans became victims of genocide that he was DIRECTLY responsible for. Additionally it was Columbus who FIRST established SLAVERY in South America along with the export of Native slaves to Europe. His governing of the territory was to supress and torture and was so bad even those he counted as friends testified to his cruelty. His own letters prove it as well. Having said all that I feel that for this country to celebrate a man such as Christopher Columbus, and for other individuals to support honoring that celebration is a the very least disgusting. Its the equivalent to having a Adolph Hitler day. Some can claim ignorance of the history but that is no excuse. If you're going to defend a position you should know the facts.
Lastly, while I think its a great idea to replace Columbus Day with ANYTHING else, I think it would be more appropriate to be renamed to honor the Native American People, who at the hand of the white man suffered a genocide that pales in comparison to the jewish holocost.
Rebekah
4:34 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Correction I meant to say that the jewish holocost pales in comparision to the genocide inflicted by Columbus against the Native Ameriscans.
Bruce
4:54 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Just another attempt at political correctness-- take a nice, focused memorial celebration and turn it into some mish-mash of collective "inclusion" to make sure nobody's "hero" is "left out". Enough, please!
RUTH PLENCNER
11:36 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
there they go the government trying to change the name of an important holiday LEAVE THINGS ALONE WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO
Kitzer
7:16 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Ruth - If you would READ the article, it's NOT the government that is trying to change this!!
Karl Frank Jr.
7:16 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Ruth, it was the government that made the federal holiday in the first place. In 1939, Franklin Roosevelt made it a holiday after heaving lobbying from the Knights of Columbus.
And so, far, it's not the government. This is a "We the People" petition.
JRENEK
7:16 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Columbus didn't discover American, the Native Americans were already here. Lets have a day to honor them!
Karl Frank Jr.
7:16 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
The bottom line is that this is what we are all about: "We propose that Columbus Day be re-dedicated as Exploration Day, for the true American spirit is about achieving the impossible through exploration, scientific research, innovation and creativity. America continues to inspire the dreamers, the courageous, the adventurers and the resolute to reach farther, to build greater and to strive to make America that more perfect union."
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/rededicate-columbus-day-exploration-day/Z608fK5N
Karl Frank Jr.
7:16 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
We wlll be live on the Big 550 this morning at 7:50am with McGraw Millhaven:
If you would like to listen online: http://www.ktrs.com/listen-now
Karl Frank Jr.
2:21 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Media Updates:
Here is the audio from the Big 550 with McGraw Millhaven. Click on Audio and then "Karl Frank and Tom Diehl." http://www.ktrs.com/shows/weekdays/the-mcgraw-show#
And Fraser Cain of Universetoday.com endorsed our efforts as well. He indicates he may write an article in support. http://explorationdayusa.org/2012/09/13/fraser-cain-from-universetoday-com-plugs-exploration-day-efforts/
Raygun
9:23 am on Friday, September 14, 2012
No one cares.
Karl Frank Jr.
11:52 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Raygun, so you are the official spokesperson for "no one." :)
We will be on Don Marsh's 'St. Louis on the Air' on Wednesday at 11:45am. 90.7 FM - Should be interesting fun. We love Don Marsh! - http://www.kwmu.org/programs/slota/index.php#.UFSDgLJlSao
Karl Frank Jr.
7:56 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Tom Diehl and I were on St. Louis on the Air Today with Don Marsh 90.7FM
You can listen to the audio here: http://www.news.stlpublicradio.org/post/city-museum-co-founder-gail-cassilly-exploration-day
dan
7:40 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Too much time on their hands, apparently. Come on guys. if you want to do something constructive, bring Oakville a nice upscale restaurant so we don't have to ride out to West County to have a nice evening. Glass Olive was a breathe of fresh air.