Didnt Biden make a comment if the Republicans win blacks would be in chains and didnt Clinton say Obama would be carrying his luggage and fetching his cofee?

Just saying your double standard doesnt make sense

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago and the clear answer is no

Unemployment is up, No Budget, No Foreign Policy, No Energy Policy and No Leadership

NOBama in 2012

Good post, as usual Karl, although I don't have the level of certainity that you have about the GOP never winning again.
It seems to me that an economic collapse, probably global, is quite plausible in the relatively near future (due to the instability in Europe and we have not fundamentally changed the systemic problems that resulted in the last crash)
Whoever is in the office at that particular point in time, which to your point will likely be Democrat, will probably take the hit in the subsequent election.

btw, I have a somewhat related post going in the Eureka Patch. You and your readers may want to check it out.

http://eureka-wildwood.patch.com/blog_posts/fears-of-a-nervous-moderate-part-2-of-5#c

Karl

As usual dont let the fact get in the way of your bogus arguments that are not supported by fact. Barrack Obama has been a disaster for the economy and for America. Experts agree that given four more years of this could lead to an economic collapse around the world. Take off the rose colored glasses and see the world as it is today

“That’s why today, I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office.”

Well, Obama doesn’t “have this done” three years later. Rather than restore economic vigor as promised, trillions of new dollars in wasteful deficit spending primarily benefitted his well-connected supporters such as labor bosses and environmental extremists, and slowed our natural cyclical recovery. His administration promised that his policies would cap unemployment at 8% all the way back in October 2009, and be down to near 6% today. Instead, we’ve remained above that 8% mark for the most consecutive months since the government began keeping records in the 1940s. At the same time Obama has raised the deficit higher than all sitting President before him.

Now explain how you could sign up for four more years of this. NoBama in 2012

Karl

Another reason your logic is wrong

http://mehlville-oakville.patch.com/articles/mehlville-school-district-employees-could-see-double-insurance-rates-next-year

Obama care at work and we are only seeing the beginning

NOBama in 2012

Karl

As usual you make stuff up and deny the facts. Yes Biden did say that. I am not sure why people dont get a petition together to get you off patch.The community would be better served

Joe Biden appeared in Virginia before a group of supporters, a number of them African-American, and said this of Republican Mitt Romney: “He is going to let the big banks once again write their own rules, unchain Wall Street. He is going to put y'all back in chains."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/15/joe-biden-s-chains-comment-and-the-racial-double-standard.html

"Obama himself has recently claimed more job growth in the past 29 months than President George W. Bush created "during the entire seven years before this crisis."
"Despite incredible odds and united Republican opposition, our president took action, and now we've seen 4.5 million new jobs," San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro said in his keynote address at the DNC on Tuesday night.
That statistic was echoed by virtually all of Tuesday night's speakers, including first lady Michelle Obama, Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who previously served as Obama's chief of staff.
However, CNN fact-checked that claim and found it to be "not the whole picture." Instead, CNN found that there has been a net increase of just 300,000 nonfarm payroll jobs since Obama took office. And if you count government jobs, there are actually 400,000 fewer people working today than in January 2009.
When Democrats use the 4.5 million jobs number, they're referring to jobs created after the economy bottomed out in January 2010, one year after Obama took office. That time frame excludes the worst job losses, which took place in 2009, and which many Democrats argue were the result of Bush policies.
CNN concludes: "The figure of 4.5 million jobs is accurate if you look at the most favorable period and category for the administration. But overall, there are still fewer people working now than when Obama took office at the height of the recession.""

Karl

No heart attack at all this is easy especially when you make up lies and dont accept the facts you have so much to do you have only posted like 40 times on facebook

Bob,

You forgot that Clinton and the democratic controlled house and senate signed our country away, by allowing NAFTA and China into the WTO. Bill Clinton claimed that allowing China will create billions of dollars in trade surplus going to China.(it is funny how when that happened somehow some chinese people donated 30 million dollars to Bill Clinton's library) Since then all the jobs that use to be in America went to Mexico and now even those jobs are in China. I had one of my customers, Delphi, tell me that they wanted a new machine for automotive production but they didnt want the language in Spanish, they wanted it in Chinese.

We need somebody to run this country like Ross Perot would have, not a democrat not a republican, but a business person.

Bob, you say, "Experts agree that given four more years of this could lead to an economic collapse around the world."

Can you cite your source?

Bob,

The trough of the Great Recession was in January of 2010. Since then, Obama's policies have added 4.5 million jobs back to private industry.

Unemployment is a lagging indicator. Source: http://goo.gl/6RsVf

Obama would have had to create 12 million private sector jobs to have the unemployment rate down to 5% and 20+ million by the end of 2016.

Bush admitted the magnitude of the failed economy when he said in December of 2008, "I had to abandon free market principles to save the free market system." - Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1G2Jyvpje8

Bob, Biden did not say as you said above: "Didnt Biden make a comment if the Republicans win blacks would be in chains."

On healthcare, Obamacare extends coverage to 30 million more people and millions of lives will be saved over the years and the quality of life for millions will be better overall. Until you actually have some information that debunks that, then it doesn't really matter what you say about it. Here is a timeline of what has been enacted, and what is yet to come: http://goo.gl/ZE1I

But the bottom line is that the Democrats could run their refridgerator against the GOP and the GOP would still lose. They are finished nationally unless something completely unpredictable happens. They've lost the country as a whole. That's the point of this post.

Karl read the facts and weep this is why you have zero credibility in the community
You must be smoking the same thing Clinton was last night I think they refer to it as wacky weed because my friend you are past wacky

Oh by the way read and weep NoBama in2012

http://mehlville-oakville.patch.com/articles/patch-democrats-polled-barack-obama-would-not-carry-missouri

Bob,

As I said in the article:

"The GOP as a national party is officially over. They can not survive in America except in pockets of loathing, malevolent ignorance."

Missouri is one of those pockets...However, if he wasn't black and didn't have the middle name Hussein, then who knows. Missouri did vote for Bill Clinton if I remember correctly.

Karl:
I actually agree with your analysis. A bit premature to say "Nationally"
Quite concise on "republican" party today.
It will evolve and take (some?) time. Another pre-election debt downgrade must be factored in.
Another factor is if the "Obama-Health-Tax" kills the economy in 2 years. I just commented on School district 100% medical Ins increase.
A National dislike in future tax increases are possible.
It's one thing to hide the obama-TAX in prices, but not Real Estate Taxes.

Karl
Why is it that you never speak to the facts. Is it because there is no denying the truth and in your make believe world it is far better to make stuff up than admit the facts.?
1) Even though Obama says he has created all these jobs the unemployment rate is higher today than 4 years ago when he took office
2) Under Obama the Deficit has grown faster than all previous Presidents combined
3) The lack of an Energy Policy has created gas prices that are double what they were when Obama took Office.
4) The middle class that Obama says his Presidency is all about has seen their median income drop by 10%
5) In 4 Years in Office has failed to adopt a budget period, balanced or oherwise
6) Has failed to develop a foreign policy that embraces our allies and strengthens world peace. Instead he has embraced the muslim world and considers to funnel money to his muslim friends who donate millions to his campaign
7) Although the affordable health care act has provisions we would all agree are good. Obama has forced thru the single biggest expansion of government that all would agree will saddle us with more massive debt, regulation and bureaucratic red tape that will prove to be as inefficient as any other government agency ie the post office, social security medicare
8) As with the Mehlville School District Health Care premiums continue to rise to astronomical proportions thus reducing spendable income and shifting the burden to the individual taxpayer.
Out of touch Karl

Bob,

You never cited your source from above when you said, "Experts agree that given four more years of this could lead to an economic collapse around the world."

1. Since you haven't figured it out yet, I'll let everyone else know who might be reading. The unemployment rate remains high because every year millions of new people enter the workforce while millions of others have lost their retirement. So, in order to have unemployment down to 5%, he would have had to added 12 billion jobs. Impossible with the GOP Party of No doing nothing in Congress. They put the bill on his desk and will sign it.

2. The deficit didn't happen in a vacuum. For anyone who is interested, you can start with the end of year numbers in 2000 and then look at the end of year numbers all the way through now. It's very clear were the deficit comes from. Not the least of which is that we ran two wars on borrowed money with interest that has come due.

3. He has an energy policy, but Congress won't do anything about it.

4. You are right, thanks to the Great Recession of 2007 that troughed in January of 2007.

5. He has a budget, but Congress has to pass the budget, and they won't. They refuse to. It's not a dictatorship.

6. His foreign policy has been awesome in my opinion, and what you say is merely opinion.

7. I love Obamacare.

8. I was on the board can inform you that healthcare costs were rising 3 x's the rate of inflation as far back as 2005 and was only increasing.

12 million jobs, not billion...whoops. :)

Bob,

You still didn't provide your source for "Experts agree that given four more years of this could lead to an economic collapse around the world." I guess that was just baseless hyperbole?

Also, here is a fully sourced list of Obama's Achievements...and it doesn't include all of them. I'm very happy with him and can't wait to vote for him again.

Either way, the 21st GOP is done in my lifetime on a national level. Obama or no Obama....

Whoops, here is the list:http://obamaachievements.org/list

Happy Birthday Bob! As of September 8, 2012, the 21st Century GOP has been blocking the American Jobs Act for a whole year. For 29 months Jobs created by Obama policies, 4.5 million ---- Jobs created by Congressional Republicans - 0.

Corporations "ARE" people.
Why? Corporations:
1) Have checking accnts.
2) Can be sued
3) Can sue
4) Pay taxes PAY TAXES! PAY TAXES! (well sometimes)
5) Are 'born" (articles by the people stockholders)
6) Are "aborted" (by stopping business)
6a) Can file BANKRUPTCY like people.
7) can Die ( by dissolution)
8) Get sick-- (that's losing money some years)
9) can gamble (develop new products)
9a) Can sign CONTRACTS. Like people.
9b) Can hire lawyers.
10) can own cars
11) can buy medical insurance
12) pay bills---Can invest in stocks--can own computers--

YEP! So next time Biden says: GM LIVES! remember that's WHAT PEOPLE DO.
I guess Biden agrees that GM LIVES! (It has a "life" like people-persons)

Obama "Resurrected" GM from the Dead. !!!!!
The "Messiah" has certainly proved that-- GM (A Corporation) is a Person-PEOPLE coming back from the Dead..
(he saved millions of "people" jobs by the many Corporations doing business with GM). ( Catholics believe in 3 persons in one GOD-- so is GM millions of "Person's" in one CORPORATION?

One more thing , any one person self-employed or (Corporation) is a "PERSON"
Geez-Democrats love re-defining America. It shows on every thing they say.

oh. Sorry. Still waiting for my invitation to my first corporate wedding.

I will when I get back home and am not driving. Macroeconomic policy affects everyone from the CEO to the unemployed to the custodian to the bus driver to the small business owner of which I am 1.

Sorry, but unless a corporation comes out of a woman's vulva it is not a person.

People hear this!
Karl will not support his own party's DNC claim that "corporations" are not people.
No-where did the party claim that Corporations are not people only because Corporation's were not born out of a "Woman's Uterus".
Yet , that is Karl's last line of defense.
Sounds like you lose Karl!
Better call your Biden's and DNC lady who proclaimed everything I rebutted.

Better tell them to "ADD WOMAN CREATE PERSON's INTO THEIR PLATFORM"
Because that is exactly what you say is a "Person"

Pleura Ever,

Human Beings and People and Person's are the same thing. Let me know the next time there is a missing person Amber alert out for Ford.

I'm with MovetoAmend.org and especially Justice Stevens' dissent.

We the People, Not We the Corporations

On January 21, 2010, with its ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, the Supreme Court ruled that corporations are persons, entitled by the U.S. Constitution to buy elections and run our government. Human beings are people; corporations are legal fictions.

We, the People of the United States of America, reject the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Citizens United, and move to amend our Constitution to firmly establish that money is not speech, and that human beings, not corporations, are persons entitled to constitutional rights.

The Supreme Court is misguided in principle, and wrong on the law. In a democracy, the people rule.

We Move to Amend.

". . . corporations have no consciences, no beliefs, no feelings, no thoughts, no desires. Corporations help structure and facilitate the activities of human beings, to be sure, and their 'personhood' often serves as a useful legal fiction. But they are not themselves members of “We the People” by whom and for whom our Constitution was established."
~Supreme Court Justice Stevens, January 2010

The troubles lie with the fact that there are only 2 major parties to choose from, and the differences between the 2 are so stark that there is no middle ground between them. If Republicans believe the Moon is made of cheese, Democrats will believe that the Moon is made of whipped cream. If Democrats like something, Republicans automatically hate it. Two party systems, and party systems in general, were not something the founding fathers wanted:
Contrary to popular belief, the two-party system is not institutionalized in the Constitution. In fact, most of the delegates at the Constitutional Convention were hostile to the idea of political parties. George Washington worried about the “baneful effects of the spirit of party” would have on the young Republic. Thomas Jefferson was more blunt in his criticism: “If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all.”

More from the Founding Fathers:
John Adams said:

There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.
George Washington agreed, saying in his farewell presidential speech: The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism.
The Founders were republicans. No, not George Bush or John McCain Republicans; they were philosophical republicans (with a small "r"). This meant they believed that successful representative governments required the subordination of individual personal interests to the welfare of the community. They believed that the political process was all about identifying the common good. It was not about competition and disagreement; politics was a process in which rational voters and officials calmly sorted out what best served the entire community. The end result was not one camp of winners and another of losers, but the entire electorate united behind a common vision.

"I read Charles Koch's op-ed as I was finishing a new book called "The Party is Over," by Mike Lofgren, who spent 30 years as a Republican committee staffer in the U.S. House of Representatives. He bailed last year, having decided his party had gone crazy...His first move was to write a blistering essay for Truth-out.org....The book (subtitle, "How Republicans Went Crazy, Democrats Became Useless and the Middle Class Got Shafted") expands on that essay....I would like to urge you to stop reading this column and look up Lofgren's essay. Or go to your favorite bookstore and buy "The Party is Over."

http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/columns/kevin-horrigan/horrigan-one-party-s-gone-crazy-the-other-s-gone/article_67a9ccae-0d0f-5cc7-b4bf-efd17ccba32b.html

"We will never have the elite, smart people on our side." Rick Santorum

Biologist PZ Myers had a good idea to keep the Republican Party viable:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/09/21/i-just-realized-how-the-republicans-can-win-me-over/

"That’ll never work. Hispanics aren’t going to see him as a friend no matter how much spray-on tan he puts on.

But then I had a thought. What the Republicans need to do is increase the supply of cranky old white men. How can they do that? Longevity research! Pour more money into the NIH for work that keeps old people alive for longer…especially that favorite subject of biomedical research, the white male. It’s a win:win! More money for science, more cranky old white men voting longer, more cranky old white men feeling obligated to the Republican party, more medical benefits that assist me as I get older.

I don’t see why they aren’t rushing to adopt this strategy. It’s their only hope."

Brooks has been an interesting fellow to watch over the years. He is precisely the kind of intellectual conservative that has been marginalized by the "Ignorance as a Value" power structure of the GOP. Here is his op-ed in the NYT

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/25/opinion/brooks-the-conservative-mind.html?_r=2

"Democrats maintained an edge in party identification, allowing Mr. Obama to win despite losing independent voters by several points. Forty-five percent of those who voted for Mr. Obama were racial minorities, a record number, and he made gains among Hispanic and Asian-American voters.

Mr. Obama’s win carried forth into most of the swing states. Of the 10 states that the campaigns contested most vigorously, he may lose only North Carolina, while winning battlegrounds in the four major geographic regions of the country.

Mr. Obama is also likely to win the popular vote, perhaps by two to three percentage points, once votes from California, Oregon and Washington are fully counted." - Nate Silver from fivethirtyeight.com

Here is Lee Atwater on how the GOP can win over racists voters without sounding racist themselves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X_8E3ENrKrQ